Peugeot 404 Coupé and Cabriolet registry

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Berichtdoor Mockenrue » 12 feb 2009, 23:53

Mike Tippett schreef:I have heard about the 17225 being the official total, but apparently the Carrosserie number of the last car was 17223!


Yes, the deficit of 2 units seems to be a known issue.
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 14 feb 2009, 21:07

Thanks to the latest person who sent me information by email, now the Netherlands has 51 representatives in our list.

But I know there are more 404 C cars there in NL, so any help in adding them would also be appreciated! If you see someone at a car club meeting , please mention this survey.

We are presently beginning work on our web-interface so people can search for their cars and add the information themselves. Perhaps it will be ready by this summer.

If anyone would like a copy of the "public list" (no private information) of the found cars, send me an email.
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Berichtdoor Maarten Deen » 14 feb 2009, 22:49

Would it be an idea to make a little article for the club magazine "Le Lion" (magazine for the three dutch Peugeot clubs, Peugeot Club Nederland, Association Peugeot Hollande and Peugeot 404 Vereniging?

That way you will also reach people that don't read this forum.
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 15 feb 2009, 02:48

That would be a great idea, Maarten, but as you can see, I am unable to write anything in Dutch.....so if anyone could help or do this for me it would be excellent! I could write something in English and then maybe a translation could be done?

Thanks for a great idea!
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Berichtdoor Maarten Deen » 15 feb 2009, 20:19

I'd be happy to translate for you.

Just to get a view of the magazine: here you see some covers. It's 23,5x16,5 cm and one page has two or three columns of 36 lines.

You can put something small (max one column) in the messages section, but with the table I think a one page article would also be possible.

And another angle: I've put a message on the Peugeot 404 hyves (a dutch version of facebook). Maybe you get some reactions from there.
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Here are the latest results: 6 more cars are now in the list

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 20 feb 2009, 21:47

1076 France
64 Germany
51 Netherlands
19 Switzerland
16 Belgium
9 Canada
9 USA
7 Great Britain
7 South Africa
5 Italy
4 New Zealand
4 Greece
3 Spain
3 Australia
3 Austria
3 Luxembourg
3 Portugal
3 Sweden
2 Norway
2 Morocco
2 New Caledonia
2 Serbia Montenegro
2 Denmark
1 Costa Rica
1 Colombia
1 Finland
1 Tunisia
1 Madagascar
1 Turks and Caicos
1 Paraguay

1306 TOTAL
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By body type and by engine type:

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 20 feb 2009, 21:49

Coupé = 392
Cabriolet = 854

Carburetor = 383
Injection = 923
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 12 maart 2009, 02:48

11 more cars have been identified, so today the list has grown to 1317!
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 09 apr 2009, 07:14

We have found 4 more 404 C cars in the past 4 weeks.....one per week is slow, but over a year that's more than 50!

Total: 1321
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 12 apr 2009, 05:42

1322 as of April 11th!
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Berichtdoor Gilletti » 12 apr 2009, 09:13

That's a great result so far!
Do you have some statistics like numbers of coupe/cabrio, years of built, colour, injection/carburator etc.?
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 12 apr 2009, 09:44

Yes, and thanks for asking:

The number of cars in the database, by model year:
1962 - 47
1963 - 100
1964 - 93
1965 - 172
1966 - 239
1967 - 291
1968 - 271
1969 - 109

Body types:
Cabriolet - 925
Coupé - 397

Engine:
Injection - 932
Carburetor - 390
(note: this is the original engine the cars were equipped with from the factory; some Injection cars have been converted to carburetor, perhaps 50 of them according to our records)

Other data:
Nardi floor shifter - 42 cars
Robergel wire wheels - 19 cars
Hard-tops for Cabriolets - 46 cars
Right-Hand Drive - 5 cars
Cars with Jaeger sports instrument panel - 10
Cars that are identified but are either scrapped, or kept only for parts - 13

Colours:
Aqua Marine 1159 (apparently a special order colour for the Cabriolet) - 1 car
Blanc Arosa 1132 - 34 cars
Blanc Saratoga - 9 cars
Bleu Ciel 1041 - 3 cars
Bleu Clair Metallisé 1158 - 3 cars
Bleu Foncé 1057 - 1 car (my friend Tim's in Victoria Canada)
Bleu Mendoza 1134 - 4 cars
Bleu Pavone 1036 - 2 cars
Gris Clair Metallisé 1162 - 18 cars
Gris Graphite 1055 - 9 cars
Noir 1000 - 6 cars
Rouge Capanelle 1033 - 4 cars
Rouge China 1035 - 15 cars

...and a few others in non-original colours. If you add up the total, you can see that we only have the colours for about 10% of the spotted cars.

Cheers
Mike

PS: any help with getting more information on the 53 cars we have from NL in the database would be very much appreciated! I'd also like to mention that any additional cars would also be welcome (are there 100 in the Netherlands?).
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Berichtdoor Maarten Deen » 12 apr 2009, 14:14

Mike Tippett schreef:
PS: any help with getting more information on the 53 cars we have from NL in the database would be very much appreciated! I'd also like to mention that any additional cars would also be welcome (are there 100 in the Netherlands?).

Apparently, looking at www.404cc.nl: 99 convertible and 55 coupé.

Maybe time for a second 404 cc meeting in the Netherlands?
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 13 apr 2009, 09:40

Yes, that is a VERY good idea, especially if it includes a little examination under the engine hood (bonnet) of each 404 C for that nosey character from Canada, Mike Tippett ;)

With the owners' permission of course.
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Berichtdoor Harrie » 13 apr 2009, 09:52

Mike Tippett schreef:Yes, that is a VERY good idea, especially if it includes a little examination under the engine hood (bonnet) of each 404 C for that nosey character from Canada, Mike Tippett ;)

With the owners' permission of course.

The owner of that website is forum-user "Mockenrue", Arthur.
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 13 apr 2009, 10:07

Yes, Arthur and I have been in touch and he has passed onto me those cars he has serial numbers for (about 40 of the ~150), but it seems that the 404 C inventory in the Netherlands is done by the car's number plate and not the serial number, which poses a problem for my survey.

The serial number is the best way - for a worldwide survey - to know exactly how many cars are left. In many countries, the number plates change with the owner.

So if any other 404 C owners in the Netherlands can help us by sending an email or private message to me with their car's serial number, it would boost our 404 C census quite a bit! I do not need any personal information at all, not even a name. I am just interested in the cars!
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 17 apr 2009, 06:04

Today we have 1325 cars on the list.
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 26 apr 2009, 04:47

We found the 1326th 404 C car last week!
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Berichtdoor Michael » 27 apr 2009, 00:14

my cars:

coupe injection 1967 red 404c 6801269
coupe injection 1968 bleu met 404c 6803275
coupe 1968 bleu met 404c 4670619

cabrio 1968 china rouge 404c 4670476
404 familiale
404 pick-up 1972/78/79 werkpaarden
404 pick-up kipper
404 oplegger combinatie
404 coupe 1967 grijs
404 pick up verlengd
404 pickup "DANGEL"
403 pickup
504 pickup en sedan
202 pickup
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Berichtdoor Mockenrue » 27 apr 2009, 00:57

Hey Michael

I think Mike would like to also have the body numbers.

Time for a roundtrip again with torchlight 8)


BTW, two coupé's bleu metallic :?:
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 27 apr 2009, 01:08

Michael, thank you VERY MUCH!

Three of those cars are new to our list and the fourth was last shown as being in Paris. The new total is 1329 cars, or 7,716% of all 404 C cars ever made!
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 27 apr 2009, 01:14

Mockenrue is right, the No. Carrosserie Peugeot would be nice to have, though I will say that I was ecstatic to get three more serial numbers!
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update - NL is close to being #2 worldwide.....

Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 27 apr 2009, 01:30

1078 France
64 Germany
61 Netherlands
19 Switzerland
18 Belgium
12 USA
9 Canada
8 Great Britain
7 South Africa
7 Austria
5 Italy
4 New Zealand
4 Greece
4 Australia
3 Spain
3 Luxembourg
3 Portugal
3 Sweden
2 Norway
2 Morocco
2 New Caledonia
2 Serbia Montenegro
2 Denmark
1 Costa Rica
1 Colombia
1 Finland
1 Tunisia
1 Madagascar
1 Turks and Caicos
1 Paraguay

1329 TOTAL
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Berichtdoor Gilletti » 27 apr 2009, 09:05

Mockenrue schreef:Hey Michael

I think Mike would like to also have the body numbers.

Time for a roundtrip again with torchlight 8)


BTW, two coupé's bleu metallic :?:


I think one of those two is in parts in my garage. :wink:
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Berichtdoor Michael » 27 apr 2009, 09:39

Henk, you know to much, yep you'r right, see Arthur's 404 site.

and also an other one is missing on my list
404 cabrio 1965 ? since 25 years in a garage in Utrecht, org Dutch 30-40-AG
bad condition.
404 familiale
404 pick-up 1972/78/79 werkpaarden
404 pick-up kipper
404 oplegger combinatie
404 coupe 1967 grijs
404 pick up verlengd
404 pickup "DANGEL"
403 pickup
504 pickup en sedan
202 pickup
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