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Berichtdoor toeguep » 01 okt 2009, 20:56

Mike Tippett schreef:Another one has been found in the USA: a 1967 model with blue paint and some parts missing. This car is on eBay right now. The VIN is listed as 4598907 but the photo of the VIN plate shows 4599641, which would be correct for the appearance of the car (driving lights in grille, round instruments, etc).

It is a Cabriolet and the floor looks awful even though it has been repaired.


I've been looked on Ebay, the car is terrible overpainted. You can see it in the motorcompartment, there is paint on a hose.
We can be sure about the numbers when the numbers on the bulkhead the same is as the number on the VINplate.
There are a lot of spareparts, maybe there is a donor.......it explane double VIN numbers.
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 01 okt 2009, 21:10

Yes that car is a real mess and the floors are a disaster. The seller told me this morning that the lower VIN is fron the engine, so it has an older KF2 engine in there.

I got another new VIN today from France: 4590804, a Bleu Pavone Cabriolet in Aix-en-Provence.
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 13 okt 2009, 04:55

We have found two more for the database:

6802180, white Coupé in France
4499083, red Cabriolet in California (body No. 10377)

So the total is 1386 now.
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Berichtdoor Mockenrue » 13 okt 2009, 23:27

Hey Mike

I saw that California convertible on Ebay, but it didn't have the usual US adjustments (additional striping, catadioptres etc.). Not required ?
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 14 okt 2009, 01:32

That is correct; none of the external changes to the 404 that were on the Berline and Break ever were required for the Coupé and Cabriolet, because it was only for the 1970 model year that side marker lights/reflectors were required. I cannot imagine a 404 C with those!
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 31 okt 2009, 22:37

Two more cabriolets in California (Oakland) have been added to the list now:

4496099 - white/black skai interior, needs a restoration
4598759 - red/black leather interior, very good condition, but carburetor engine.

Total = 1388 cars.
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 08 nov 2009, 18:32

Today a further two cars have been identified:

4670467, a blue metallc Coupé in the Netherlands presently for sale on eBay (the 80th Dutch one in our survey)

6801627, a white Coupé in France owned by a Club 404 member.

Total = 1390 cars!
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 09 nov 2009, 22:40

My goal several months ago was to achieve 1400 cars in the 404 C list before the end of 2009, so any help finding the last 10 would be really appreciated!

There are a couple of rumours for 404 C information in the USA that I am looking into right now - I will report the results here when I have any.
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Berichtdoor toeguep » 12 nov 2009, 13:45

I have found another 404 cabrio that not exist in the database, vin number 4497273

Here is the link
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 12 nov 2009, 18:11

Excellent work, thank you!!
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 16 nov 2009, 22:38

Karel Verhoeven has a white Coupé Injection for sale right now and he told me the number: 6801946.

This is No. 1392 on our list!
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 06 dec 2009, 22:04

Thanks to another Dutch owner, I have two more cars in NL to report:
4498486, a Cabriolet, and 6802886, a Coupé that is now scrapped.
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 06 jan 2010, 17:35

I received six more serial numbers out of Belgium on Monday so the total in the database is now 1400 cars!

The online database tool will be available in a couple of weeks and I will make a post here when it is ready.
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Berichtdoor toeguep » 06 jan 2010, 19:24

Mike Tippett schreef:I received six more serial numbers out of Belgium on Monday so the total in the database is now 1400 cars!

The online database tool will be available in a couple of weeks and I will make a post here when it is ready.


Well done!
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Berichtdoor Mockenrue » 07 jan 2010, 03:00

Congrats, Mike !
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 07 jan 2010, 03:23

Thanks Arthur; I will be sending you the updated list shortly, as soon as I can get it sorted out in its "public" version where the names and locations are not listed.

And I "found" one more when scanning the data again today, it is of a car that is wrecked now but its engine (identified by the wrecked car's serial number) is in another car which is in the database! So the total is 1401!
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 07 jan 2010, 22:12

toeguep schreef:Well done!


Thanks toeguep, I still have some potential sources out in Internet-land who have not reported their numbers back to me yet, so I hope to be lucky enough to be able to add some more to the list shortly.

For the last day of 2010, I would like to have 1500 of these cars in the registry!
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Berichtdoor Harrie » 07 jan 2010, 22:55

Mike Tippett schreef:And I "found" one more when scanning the data again today, it is of a car that is wrecked now but its engine (identified by the wrecked car's serial number) is in another car which is in the database! So the total is 1401!
if a car is wrecked, why do you count it in your database?
The engine of that car will probably be in another 404 ( C ?) , wich car is maby allready in your database.
So you could count it double,...?
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You did a great job, creating this database, congratulations !
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 08 jan 2010, 06:24

Hi Harrie,

Thanks, I am having lots of fun with this project.

You have a very good question.

First the general answer: When I find a car that has been wrecked, the data in the file I have indicates "cassé" (the database is in French), so yes, I do count wrecked cars because at least we know what happened to them. Of the 1401 cars in the list, only 18 are known to be wrecked.

About this particular car, well I noticed that in the "notes" part of the file for another 404 C it said that the engine is from 4598907 and it is in the body with serial number 4599641. 4598907 was not already on the list as a "known" car. I have assumed that the original car that had this engine in it is now wrecked (the body with the serial number 4598907). It would be strange for a good KF2 engine to be separated from its original car, if the car still exists. But I suppose that assumption could be incorrect. Well, at least we know where its engine is!!
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Berichtdoor toeguep » 08 jan 2010, 08:57

The database is "überhaupt" a snap-shot situation, its a hell of a job to get it up to date.
Its only possible when the holders from VIN-numbers Mike call that they car is wrecked....

(Excuses for my terrible english) :?
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 08 jan 2010, 21:10

I am in a Dutch forum using English, you are definitely not the one who needs to apologise! And your English is fine!

Correct, it is a snapshot; even some of the data are old from the Club 404 so we don't know for sure that a car entered into the Club's archives in 1989 is still around, necessarily. In many cases, cars spotted from the French Club 404 forum this past year were previously entered and last "seen" 22 years ago or more, so it seems that most cars on the list are now at an age where they will be preserved and not scrapped voluntarily. Of course, collisions on the road are an ongoing problem...
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 17 jan 2010, 10:27

The online form is now ready to both view and receive new 404 and 404 C data: http://www.smrtash.ca/proj/c404/

The site is still under development and the French part isn't too good yet so some improvements will be coming in the next months.

We had our first new entry from someone today: a white 404 Coupé Carburetor in Cork Ireland, number 4499752!

The total therefore is up to 1402 404 CC cars! There are also 816 other types of 404 in the database!

If any members here would like to add their 404s, please do, using that form.
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 18 jan 2010, 01:53

Thanks to the two folks from here who added their cars!

Over time I hope to be improving this site, but for now at least it is functional. I want to be able to show the site's users some statistics of cars in the database: e.g. how many saloons, coupés, cabriolets, breaks etc, engine types and so on. This will take a while - my programmer is an engineering student and he is really busy right now!

It will take several weeks before newly entered data is updated to the main database, so for those who enter their cars, don't expect to see them in a search immediately! We have to screen and enter the data manually in order to prevent spambots from filling the real database!
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Berichtdoor Mike Tippett » 04 maart 2010, 06:26

We have found two more 404 C cars since the last update, so the total is at 1404! A good number :wink:
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Berichtdoor Harrie » 04 maart 2010, 20:06

Mike Tippett schreef:We have found two more 404 C cars since the last update, so the total is at 1404! A good number :wink:

that's 1 404 ... just one?

:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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