Peugeot 404 Coupé and Cabriolet registry

[Mike Tippett]

Finally!

After a good run of new information in September and part of October, I got some more cars for the registry today!

Thanks to a new contact in Germany, photos to follow...

4495658 - Cabriolet, Berlin, restoration starts soon
4495811 - Cabriolet, Weyarn
4597338 - Cabriolet, Hamburg
6800884 - Cabriolet, Wiggensbach

Total: 1463 cars registered!

[Mike Tippett]

1095 France
94 Netherlands
87 Germany
32 USA
27 Belgium
21 Switzerland
9 Canada
9 South Africa
9 Spain
8 New Zealand
7 Great Britain
7 Austria
6 Finland
6 Australia
6 Greece
5 Sweden
5 Norway
5 Italy
4 Portugal
3 Luxembourg
2 Morocco
2 New Caledonia
2 Serbia
2 Denmark
2 Tunisia
1 Slovakia
1 Ireland
1 Madagascar
1 Turks and Caicos
1 Costa Rica
1 Colombia
1 Paraguay
1 Venezuela


1463 TOTAL

Germany is now only 7 cars behind the Netherlands!

[Mike Tippett]

I received another number from France today: Chassisnr. 6802435, Carrosserie Nr. 15750, a Cabriolet Injection in dark blue metallic paint (a Jaguar colour), beige interior and black soft top, located in Avignon.

This brings the total to 1464 cars!

[Mike Tippett]

One other note, 8,5% of all 404 C cars that were ever built are now in this Registry!

That is good, but I would like to take it well over 10%. All help is appreciated!!

[Mike Tippett]

Here are the photos that I have of the most recently added cars (my posting on 14 November):

4495658 :


4495811 : sorry, no photo is available

4597338 :


6800884 (ex-Milano Italy):

[sander203]

did you see these

http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/153529989.htm?ca=8_s

[Mike Tippett]

Not until you posted the link, thank you!

I will send an email en Français and see if I get a reply. 95% of the time I don't because all the person cares about is selling the car. I think Arthur knows this phenomenon too

EDIT: it seems the advertisement has been disactivated, too bad, 4 numbers would have been nice!

[sander203]

No, I don´t think so, it´s a bug on that website. If you try again you will get the right page.

[Mike Tippett]

OK I gave it a try, we will see if an answer comes!

[Mike Tippett]

I got a reply from the French guy selling 4 cars, he only asked why I wanted the numbers (he sounded very suspicious of my motivation). So I wrote back and told him about the registry. We will see if he replies with some new numbers.

Meanwhile, from France this evening, a new 404 Cabriolet was added:

6803191, grey metallic, located in Département 33 (Gironde).

So, you might think that the total has risen to 1465 cars......well not quite. I heard from Messrs. Slager and Edgar in New Zealand, and we have found that one of the cars already recorded in the registry is a duplicate. The car in question is 4599456, which is apparently a duplicate and incorrect entry for the actual car, which is 4599466.

So: the total remains at 1464 cars!

[Mike Tippett]

I can report some new information today:

The "Terminator" in Germany (see the comment from Mockenrue on the last page) has passed on a couple of new numbers of cars that he has scrapped for parts:

6801719, a white Cabriolet Injection from 19 October 1967

4596258, a white Coupé Injection from 01 August 1965

On the happy side, we have a report of a new 404 C in Germany that will probably be restored:

4595492, a Cabriolet Injection (colour unknown so far), from 03 May 1966, located at KEFFERHAUSEN

So this has brought the total to 1467 cars!

[Mike Tippett]

Nr. 1468 has arrived on our Registry site:

6800380, a Cabriolet Injection from 16 February 1967, in Gris Graphite 1055 (!), located at ST-ANTOINE FRANCE!

[Mockenrue]

Keep up the good work, Mike ! Great to see the list growing.

[Mike Tippett]

Thanks, Arthur!

Well there is a story behind the next two I will list here. GT Spirit is a company in France, near Lyon, that sells VERY expensive cars, including 404 Cabriolets at about 30K Euro (as I said, VERY expensive cars).

About a year ago I asked them once or twice what the serial numbers of a couple of 404 C cars they were selling was, and they told me. Since then, they won't pass the info on, well probably because I would not buy one of their cars...

But they do post photos of them online, not with a good enough resolution to read the serial number, but sometimes clear enough to read the Carrosserie Peugeot number, which is almost as good as the serial number so far as the Registry is concerned. It seems to me that they should show the serial numbers in the advertisement and mention whether the chassis number (serial number) matches the chassis number on the engine, which could affect the value....but they don't.

However, two of the four cars for sale there right now have visible Carrosserie Peugeot numbers, so I have added them to the list:

Carrosserie Nr. 6643, Coupé Carburator 1965, Noir 1000, Red Leather, for sale at GT Spirit December 2010, 01120 LA BOISSE, FRANCE

Carrosserie Nr. 1741, Cabriolet Injection 1963, Blanc Saratoga 1031, Black Leather, for sale at GT Spirit December 2010, 01120 LA BOISSE, FRANCE

Total: 1470 !

[Mike Tippett]

Here is a photo of 6800380: And yes, it was sold by GT Spirit, whose logo is visible on the license plate! And this car seems to have Cibié Biode headlamps in it.

[Mike Tippett]

This is Cabriolet No. 4499110, Carrosserie number 10682, a 1966 model with 1962-64 type front indicator/parking light units.

It is located in an underground parking garage in Brussels in Belgium and is never used by the owner. This same owner also has a black Cabriolet and a parts car which we unfortunately do not know the numbers of (nor are we ever likely to learn them, since he is quite reclusive according to my source. The black car has 17 km FROM NEW. That does not mean it's in good condition of course, but it gives you an idea of this owner's strange relationship with his cars.

Total: 1471 cars!

[Mike Tippett]

Another scrapped car came to my attention today: 4595090, which used to be in Germany.

Total: 1472 cars.

[Mike Tippett]

No. 1473 has been found in Belgium:

It is a C model, I am not certain which type yet - the person who told me about it did not specify - the car was first registered may 1966. Serial Number: 4499192.

Edit: it is a Blanc Arosa Coupé !

[Mike Tippett]

Number 1474 has been added to the Registry:

4499723, a Blanc Arosa Cabriolet with XC6 engine from 1967, located in France.

[Mike Tippett]

Another one has been found (that's the good news), but it has been scrapped (that's the bad news):

4595367, a Cabriolet Injection of 1965 - the Fahrzeugschein is for sale on eBay. Before the car was scrapped, it had been converted to a carburator engine, the former location was in Austria.

Total: 1475 cars !

[Mike Tippett]

Another 404 C has been discovered:

4497445, Coupé with Carburator engine, first registered on 21 April 1964, colour: Noir 1000, car is for sale right now (January 2011), car is originally from France as you can see the original license still on the car: 4929 M 93, located in Hungary.



Total: 1476 cars!

[Mike Tippett]

Sumbitted today on the Registry website:

6801169, Carrosserie No.: 13997, a Coupé Injection in condition 4, restoration is planned for 2011 although the owner is missing several parts, located in: CRACOW POLAND

Total: 1477

[Mike Tippett]

Another 404 C has been found:

4596596, a Cabriolet with Injection, 07 juillet 1965, colour: Blanc Saratoga 1031, located in BORDEAUX FRANCE

Total: 1478 cars!

[Mike Tippett]

Good morning, Peter T in Germany passed on the following information to me:

4594823, a Coupé Injection from 1964, colour: Bronze Metallic, interior in Beige velours, this car was originally from Switzerland, now for sale in Germany (February 2011).



Total: 1479 cars !

[Mike Tippett]

Two more have come to the list thanks to the website of GT Spirit, which surely is the most expensive source for these cars in the world.....

Only the Carrosserie Numbers are visible on the photos, so there exists a possibility that these two vehicles are already in the Registry under serial number only (most of the cars in the Registry do not also have associated Carrosserie Numbers in the same list), but I think they should be added anyway.

No. de Carrosserie : 1163, Cabriolet Carburator 1962, Blanc Saratoga 1031, 25.900 Euro, 01120 LA BOISSE FRANCE



No. de Carrosserie : 176, Cabriolet Carburator 1962, Blanc Saratoga 1031, 25.900 Euro, post-1966 grille, front sidelights and turn indicators from a 1964-66 model, therefore it is a fairly bad example! 01120 LA BOISSE FRANCE



Total: 1481!